Looking for Hagstrom/Norrgard relatives from Alands or west Finland

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Hej, my name is Christopher Hagstrom from New Britain, Pennsylvania near Philadelphia,USA and I am a new member here. I would be most grateful for any info./assistance in tracing my paternal great-grandparents, Otto Wilhelm Hagstrom and his first wife, Edla Sophia Norrgard.Unfortunately I have very little to go on in the way of birth/death dates/parish membership. I do know from my grandfather, Harry O. Hagstrom, that they probably came from the Aland Islands (Ahvenenmaa) and emigrated to Philadelphia and then settled in Camden, New Jersey & ,later, Riverton NJ.
A member of this forum very kindly contacted me from a query I left on the Alands Emigrants Institute guestbook. He related that the surname Norrgard seems to be from Osterbotten in the Swedish-speaking west coast area of Finland at the Gulf of Bothnia. I am also told from family sources that Edla Sophia's family were possibly merchants(jewellers). The forum member further related that he and a co-ordinator from the Alands Institute found US Census info from 1910 showing an Otto Hagstrom, widower,b.about 1866, emigrated 1890 from Finland.Any info.much appreciated--thanks!

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Hej, my name is Christopher Hagstrom from New Britain, Pennsylvania near Philadelphia,USA and I am a new member here. I would be most grateful for any info./assistance in tracing my paternal great-grandparents, Otto Wilhelm Hagstrom and his first wife, Edla Sophia Norrgard.Unfortunately I have very little to go on in the way of birth/death dates/parish membership. I do know from my grandfather, Harry O. Hagstrom, that they probably came from the Aland Islands (Ahvenenmaa) and emigrated to Philadelphia and then settled in Camden, New Jersey & ,later, Riverton NJ.
A member of this forum very kindly contacted me from a query I left on the Alands Emigrants Institute guestbook. He related that the surname Norrgard seems to be from Osterbotten in the Swedish-speaking west coast area of Finland at the Gulf of Bothnia. I am also told from family sources that Edla Sophia's family were possibly merchants(jewellers). The forum member further related that he and a co-ordinator from the Alands Institute found US Census info from 1910 showing an Otto Hagstrom, widower,b.about 1866, emigrated 1890 from Finland.Any info.much appreciated--thanks!

Hi
I found this from http://hiski.genealogia.fi

Christened - Ahlainen
8.7.1849 F:Rusth: Robert Norrgård and Lovisa 34 Edla Sophia
Christened - Merikarvia
5.4.1834 Kasaböle f:d:B Johan Norrgård and Caisa Lisa Johansdr 44 Edla Sophia
Christened - Pomarkku
3.3.1852 Tp: Joel Norrgård and Maria Andersdr. 33 Edla Sophia

I have to one Edla Sophia Norrgård in my list, b. 17.1.1851, but she died in Merikarvia 27.1.1898

Kaarina

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Edla Norrgård

Hi Christopher,
Welcome to Finlander Forum! Without birthdates to go on, or even a guess, here are a few records that may be your Edla.

Best Regards,
Denise




Detailed passenger information
Last name Norrgård
First names Edla
Age or age group 21
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Boston
State of destination MA
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 253
Ship from Finland Polaris
Date of departure from Finland 21.09.1910
Ship from England Saxonia
Date of departure from England 27.09.1910
Ocean Line Cunard Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 83/83
Remarks *



Detailed passport information
Last name Norrgård
First names Edla
Other names *
Date of birth . .1889
Marital status 1
Religion Lut.
Occupation Taloll. tr
Home parish Ylimarkku
Province VAA
Passport date 10.09.1910
Passport number 6544
Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by VAA
Remarks *


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Detailed passenger information
Last name Norrgård
First names Edla
Age or age group 14
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Dollar Bay
State of destination MI
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 320
Ship from Finland Arcturus
Date of departure from Finland 10.12.1902
Ship from England Celtic
Date of departure from England 17.12.1902
Ocean Line White Star Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 31/38
Remarks Mk Johanna Norrgård.




Detailed passenger information
Last name Norrgård
First names Edla
Age or age group 40
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Dollar Bay
State of destination MI
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 232
Ship from Finland Arcturus
Date of departure from Finland 12.04.1902
Ship from England *
Date of departure from England 99.99.9999
Ocean Line Cunard Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 28/31
Remarks Mk Emil, Wendla, Hilma ja Elsa Norrgård.





Detailed passport information
Last name Norrgård
First names Edla
Other names *
Date of birth . .1861
Marital status 2
Religion Lut.
Occupation Mäkitupal. vmo
Home parish Maalahti
Province VAA
Passport date 10.04.1902
Passport number 1329
Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by VAA
Remarks Sp 4 lasta.

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Edla Norrgård Boston Passenger Record

Hi Christopher,
I found this passenger record on Ancestry for an Edla Norrgård.

Denise

Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943
Name: Edla Norrgard
Arrival Date: 7 Oct 1910
Age: 21 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Saxonia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Lina Karlson
Last Residence: United States of America
Birthplace: Koosnas, Finland
Microfilm Roll Number: 156



Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943

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Swenson 231 = Michigan, Houghton County, Dollar Bay, First Lutheran
231 13h Frans Isak Stoor Feb 27 1879 Pörtom 1895
231 13w Edla Amanda f. Norrgård Jun 30 1888 Malax 1902

here is that Edla who went to Dollar Bay Mi and if she is the one, her husband is also listed.
Good luck,

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Hi
I found this from http://hiski.genealogia.fi

Christened - Ahlainen
8.7.1849 F:Rusth: Robert Norrgård and Lovisa 34 Edla Sophia
Christened - Merikarvia
5.4.1834 Kasaböle f:d:B Johan Norrgård and Caisa Lisa Johansdr 44 Edla Sophia
Christened - Pomarkku
3.3.1852 Tp: Joel Norrgård and Maria Andersdr. 33 Edla Sophia

I have to one Edla Sophia Norrgård in my list, b. 17.1.1851, but she died in Merikarvia 27.1.1898

Kaarina

Hi again,
I found to this, the first Edla b. 8.7.1849 in Merikarvia died 14.10.1858 and the second Edla is maybe old to Otto!
And the third Edla from Pomarkku can be possible to Otto

Kaarina

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Otto Hagström 1900 Census

Hi Christopher,
Here is an Otto Hagström married to an Edla in the 1900 US Federal Census in Philadelphia.


Denise

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Otto Hagstrom
Home in 1900: Philadelphia Ward 39, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Russia
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's Name: Edla
Race: White
Occupation: View Image
Immigration Year: 1894
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Otto Hagstrom 35
Edla Hagstrom 35
Elba Hagstrom 2
Ellen Hagstrom 9.12
John Antella 38





Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Philadelphia Ward 39, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Roll: T623 1480; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 1003.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census

[Denise Registered Find all posts View Profile Close Denise]

Sorry, here's the actual census record!

Christopher,
I hit the reply button before attaching the census!

Denise

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Otto Hagström 1910 Census

Hi Christopher,
By 1910 Otto was listed as widowed in Camden, New Jersey. Here is the census.

Denise

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Otto M Hagstrom
Age in 1910: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Home in 1910: Camden Ward 2, Camden, New Jersey
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1890
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Otto M Hagstrom 44




Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Camden Ward 2, Camden, New Jersey; Roll: T624_872; Page: 19A; Enumeration District: 13; Image: 948.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census

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Hi Denise,Thanks so much...this is possibilty:have photo of wedding cert.from City of Phila.dated Nov.1895.Edla was Otto's first wife & she died after they both had influenza around time of 1918 pandemic.Your passengr.list finds do not seem to match what I know of her approx.age or time/place emigrated to(Phila.)

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Denise,You are a wonder! Thanks so much! The posts from the 2 census' are very likely my relatives:at the time Otto & Edla were born,I suppose Finland was considered a grand duchy of Russia(hence the birthplace listed).Also,they had at least 3 daughters(Ebba,Ellen,Alma,& poss.1 other who was adopted out),1 son(my grndfathr,Harry b.1901)& anothr son who may have died btwn 10-14 yrs old.,called Jonny.

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Hej Kaarina,Thanks so much for the christening/birth records & your efforts! I think the only one possible would be the one from Pomarkku.However,post#7 from Denise shows a 35yr.old Edla at time of 1900 US Fed.Census--b.about 1865 & more matching w/Otto's age/birth yr.How can I get more info.on actual birthplace/dates & emigration place/dates? Thanks again!

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Denise,reost#9/1910 census/Camden NJ,shows earlier date emigration from 1900(1890 vs 1894) & age of son Harry(my g.fthr) seems high(I know his d.o.b as 1901) & there is no othr mention of othr kids.Also,if Edla died by this time,it's earlier than I'd known.I do know that(from family stories) when Edla died,Otto temporarily placed kids in Chestnut Hill PA orphanage so he could continue working & my gfthr stopped school to work w/him.Otto re-married to another Finnish lady who emigrated to Phila.(named Anna;surname unknown)about 2 yrs later.There were at least 2 more sisters & maybe 1 brother aftr Harry(One sister adopted out to family near Seattle WA & brother died in accident w/coalcart,1913-14.Name of adopted-out sister unknown).Is there a way I can copy your att.thmbs of census pgs.?Sorry,not very computer savvy! Also,1900 census shows d.o.b for Otto as Mar.1865 & for Edla Feb.1865.Can these be used to find actual place of birth or of emigration?
Please let me know of anything else that any of you may find and my heart-felt thanks and appreciation for all of your interest & efforts.
Warmest regards,Christopher Hagstrom

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Edla Norrgård Pass. Rec.

Hi Christopher,
Here is the correct passenger record for Edla!


Denise

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
Name: Edla Norgaard
Arrival Date: 22 May 1893
Age: 26 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Lord Gough
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Last Residence: Wasa
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_19



Source Citation: Roll: T840_19; Line: 23.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945

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Hagström/Norrgard

Hi Christopher,
On Edla's passenger record she states she was from Vaasa, was 26 years of age which would make her born about 1866-67. On the 1900 Census it is recorded that she was born February 1865. Vaasa's records end on
http://hiski.genealogia.fi/historia/indexe.htm the year of 1855. Hopefully someone will have access to records there and look it up for you. On the 1900 Census Otto is isted as being born in March 1865. I've been unsucessful finding a passenger record for him as of yet. Maybe that would provide further clues. There are many Otto's on Ancestry, but none that I feel comfortable saying they are correct. I'll keep looking. As far as copying the census and passenger records, you can right click on the image (without enlarging it first, click "save picture as" and load it onto your desktop or wherever you want to save the image. If you have a program such as Adobe you can play around with the saved image and enlarge and print it. The records aren't very clear or legible if you just try to copy them on your printer. I'll get back on searching tomorrow; it's getting late and I have to work in the morning..but I usually find time at work to search on the computer.

Good night!
Denise

P.S. You will find with each record found on any of your ancestry, mistakes have been made in transcription such as birth year, immigration dates, age at marriage, etc. which cause you to question what info. you have. I had a great grandmother who always celebrated her birthday on July 3rd, but when I finally received her birth records from the parish we found out she had been born March 7th! (ex. b.07.03.1865 when reading a record here in the US you would think July 3, 1865, when it is really March 7, 1865) The only records I have found to be accurate are from the parish records in Finland. They are meticulous with record keeping.