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  • Gustaa Isak Keränen s. 5 Aug 1876 Oulu

    Hello,

    I'm looking for any information to confirm birth dates and also to determine the parents of Gustaa Isak Keränen and also of his wife Liisa Kaisa.

    HisKi does not have the dates needed in order to determine the parentage of Gustaa or Liisa Kaisa.

    I'm interested in information from Finland, not so much for the United States at the moment, but if anyone has access to the 1910 and 1920 Censuses of the USA, I'd be interested in what they show as well, particularly with respect to additional children.

    The most likely US records will be in Becker County, Minnesota or a county close by.

    From the Institute of Migration, I have the following:
    Detailed passport information

    Last name Keränen
    First names Gustaa Isak
    Other names *
    Date of birth 05.08.1876
    Marital status 1
    Religion Lut.
    Occupation Työmies
    Home parish Oulun msrk.
    Province OU
    Passport date 16.03.1904
    Passport number 103
    Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
    Destination Amerikka
    Passport issued by OU
    Remarks Sp vmo Liisa Kaisa ja 1 lapsi.

    Detailed passenger information

    Last name Keränen
    First names Gustaa I.
    Age or age group 27
    Port of departure Hanko
    Place of destination Menahga
    State of destination MN
    Country of destination USA
    Price of ticket FIM 278
    Ship from Finland Urania
    Date of departure from Finland 19.03.1904
    Ship from England Lucania
    Date of departure from England 26.03.1904
    Ocean Line Cunard Line
    Port of departure in England *
    List and page 37/25
    Remarks Mk Liina K. ja Martta B. Keränen. [typo, should be Liisa, not Liina]


    Detailed passport information

    Last name Keränen
    First names Liisa Kaisa
    Other names *
    Date of birth 05.10.1875
    Marital status 2
    Religion Lut.
    Occupation Työmiehen vmo
    Home parish Oulun msrk.
    Province OU
    Passport date 16.03.1904
    Passport number 103
    Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
    Destination Amerikka
    Passport issued by OU
    Remarks Ph mies Gustaa Isak s. 1876.


    Detailed passenger information

    Last name Keränen
    First names Liina K. [typo, should be Liisa, not Liina]
    Age or age group 28
    Port of departure Hanko
    Place of destination Menahga
    State of destination MN
    Country of destination USA
    Price of ticket FIM 278
    Ship from Finland Urania
    Date of departure from Finland 19.03.1904
    Ship from England Lucania
    Date of departure from England 26.03.1904
    Ocean Line Cunard Line
    Port of departure in England *
    List and page 37/25
    Remarks Mk Gustaa I. ja Martta B. Keränen.


    Detailed passport information

    Last name Keränen
    First names Martta Brigitta
    Other names *
    Date of birth 07.09.1900
    Marital status 1
    Religion Lut.
    Occupation Työmiehen tr
    Home parish Oulun msrk.
    Province OU
    Passport date 16.03.1904
    Passport number 103
    Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
    Destination Amerikka
    Passport issued by OU
    Remarks Ph isä Gustaa Isak s. 1876.


    Detailed passenger information

    Last name Keränen
    First names Martta B.
    Age or age group 3
    Port of departure Hanko
    Place of destination Menahga
    State of destination MN
    Country of destination USA
    Price of ticket FIM 278
    Ship from Finland Urania
    Date of departure from Finland 19.03.1904
    Ship from England Lucania
    Date of departure from England 26.03.1904
    Ocean Line Cunard Line
    Port of departure in England *
    List and page 37/25
    Remarks Mk Gustaa I. ja Liina K. Keränen [typo, should be Liisa, not Liina]


    Here is the Ellis Island records:

    First Name: Gustav
    Last Name: Keranen
    Ethnicity: Finland/Finnish
    Last Place of Residence: Hango
    Date of Arrival: Apr 02, 1904
    Age at Arrival: 27y Gender: M Marital Status: M
    Ship of Travel: Lucania
    Port of Departure: Liverpool
    Manifest Line Number: 0020
    Traveling with Liisa, age 28 - wife; Martta, age 3 - child

    Thank you very much!
    Best -

    Ilmari Kivinen

  • #2
    Keranen

    Many years ago when I visited a cousin in New Mexico, we went to meet her childhood friend, named Keranen (don't remember her first name), who was married to an Indian who was a chief or ranked high in his tribe. She was an artist and exhibited her work in Taos, I think. She and my cousin grew up in Virginia, MN, and Keranen's father was involved in education - maybe head of a college? Wish I could find my notes from that trip.
    June

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    • #3
      Keranen

      I remember her name was Hella Keranen, artist. She was the daughter of Peter Keranen, pastor of Savo Lutheran Church, Frederick, ND, who confirmed her in 1923. I found this about her, but don't know anything about her parents, so maybe they are a different Keranen family than yours. She was an interesting person to know, and when I wanted to photograph some pueblos around Albuquerque, she talked to the Indians and got permission from them.

      Hella Keranen Broeske Shattuck arrived in Santa Fe on the back of a motorcycle during her honeymoon in 1934. The child of Finnish immigrants from South Dakota, she became a trained concert pianist. Armed with some art training in Minneapolis and Portland, Oregon, she also studied with Santa Fe painter Odon Hullenkremer (1888-1978) and quickly became involved in the Santa Fe art scene. Following her 1946 divorce she lived all over New Mexico and became fascinated with Hispanic and American Indian life, particularly ceremonials and fiestas. Shattuck became "artist in residence" at Isleta and Laguna pueblos by 1949. She later moved to Taos for a time and later Albuquerque where she died.
      June

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      • #4
        Hi June,

        It doesn't sound like the same Keränen family.

        These people were Apostolic Lutheran and farmers.

        I have a potential note regarding Gustaa's Mother's maiden name: possibly Sorvari. At least, I think the note is referring to her as being Gustaa's mother.
        Best -

        Ilmari Kivinen

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        • #5
          Here is your family in MN in 1910 and 1920. Also Gustaf's WWI Draft Card and their arrival to US in 1904. Kaisa Liisa Keranen died 25 Apr 1937 in Wadena county, MN. I'll keep looking.
          Karen
          Attached Files

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          • #6
            From the MN Birth-Death Index
            Gustaf Keranen died 3 Feb 1956 in Becker county, MN
            Charles Gustaf Keranen 9 Nov 1908-17 Jun 1979 Becker
            Heikki (Henry) Keranen 26 Apr 1914 Becker-4 Sep 1998 Hubbard county, MN
            Jenny Sophia Keranen 3 Oct 1911 Becker
            John Petter Keranen 29 May 1904-3 Jun 1976 Becker
            Lizzie Elizabeth Keranen 4 Nov 1905 Becker, this must be Mary in 1920.
            William Emil Keranen 30 Nov 1917 Becker.
            All give mmn as Sorvari or Sarvari

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            • #7
              From FFHA, most of the Keränen were found in Oulu, Muhos and Suomussalmi. I found 8 pages of Keränen in Oulu in the Rippi that goes to 1900. There are several private Family Trees on Ancestry. They have Gustaf born in Muhos and Kaisa Liisa in Oulu. They have Martha Birgitta Keränen born 7 Sep 1900 and died Jun 1979 in CA. Married to a Chester Arthur Hunt. Says married 1932 in Grand Forks, ND. John married Esther Koskela, Mary married Harry Lewis, Henry married Hilda Hillukka, Charles married Elsie Nieminen and Jennie/Jenny married Walter Jacob Kinnunen.
              Karen

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              • #8
                Karen,

                Thanks a million.

                Now if I can go in the opposite direction and get some information on the Finland side of this story, that will be very interesting.

                Hopefully, someone with access to the church books in the parishes of Oulu will be able to look for me.

                Karen, is there a way to send a "request for more information" to any of the private family tree folks that have posted information at ancestry.com?

                Thanks again!
                Best -

                Ilmari Kivinen

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                • #9
                  Karen,

                  Would you clarify for me one thing?

                  Are the children giving mmn as Sorvari or is it referring back to Gustaa?

                  Or maybe I read that incorrectly? These names are siblings of Gustaa?

                  Also, those other family trees, do they list any parents for Gustaa or Liisa Kaisa?
                  Best -

                  Ilmari Kivinen

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                  • #10
                    They are referring to the maiden name of the mother of the children, Kaisa Liisa or Liisa Kaisa. I joined FFHA and have been looking for the birth record of Gustaa. I looked both in Oulu and Muhos, but there's no record found in Muhos and Oulu doesn't have those years in births. As I said, I found 8 pages in the Rippi for families named Keränen in Oulu. If you want I will email them to your private email. I can leave a message for the owners of the Family Trees on Ancestry if you send me your email address. None of the Trees has parents for Gustaa or Liisa.
                    Karen

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                    • #11
                      I sent messages to the two Family Trees on Ancestry to contact me if they are willing to share info.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Karen!

                        I will PM you my e-mail address, drop me a note so I can have you in my address book.

                        I am getting some response at Suku as well, for Liisa-Kaisa's line.

                        As some of the data shows some out of wedlock siblings for some of the lines it seems I'm getting some info via PM there.

                        I'll attempt to cross post any non-sensitive info here that I get there - after the dust settles a bit.

                        Merry Christmas!
                        Best -

                        Ilmari Kivinen

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                        • #13
                          Some information I've received from a Suku Forum member

                          Please begin here:

                          http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...ko45-0/150.htm

                          Sorvari Henrik 28/12 1797
                          hu Lisa Savilaxo 3/10 1800 (= Savilaakso)
                          son Abram 17/10 1830

                          Oulujoki 1851-57 p. ? Litt. S
                          Sorvari Abram Henrikss. 17/10 1830 Uleå
                          wife Parkinen Greta 1.4.1830 ÖKimingi (= Ylikiiminki)
                          son Henrik 23/12 1853
                          son Johan Petter 5/3 1856

                          Oulujoki 1858-70 p. 206 Litt. S
                          Sorvari Abram, wife Greta, 10 children, one of them is
                          Johan Petter 5/3 1856

                          Oulujoki 1871-80 p. 205 Litt. S
                          Sorvari Abram, wife Greta, one of their children
                          Johan Petter 5/3 1856
                          wife Brita Kaisa Eriksdr Sangilampi 14.3.1835
                          married 18/4 1874
                          children:
                          -Johan Jakob Brita Kaisas son 23/2 1863
                          -LIISA KAISA 5/10 1875

                          Oulujoki 1881-1890 p. 258 Litt. S & Childrens book 1881-1890 p. 258:
                          Sorvari Abram, wife Greta, their children...
                          Johan Petter 5/3 1856, wife Brita Kaisa Eriksdr Sangilampi, children:
                          -Johan Jacob Brita Kaisasson
                          -Lisa Kaisa 5.10.1875
                          -Ida Maria 2.6.1878

                          Oulujoki 1891-1900 p. 364 Litt. S
                          Sorvari Abram Heikinp. 7/10 1839 – d. 30/5 1897
                          wife Greta Parkkinen 1.4.1830 – d. 22.10.1899
                          p. 365:
                          Sorvari Johan Petter, wife Brita Kaisa
                          dr Liisa Kaisa 5.10.1875 to page 244 *)
                          dr Ida Maria

                          *) p. 244
                          Keränen Kustaa Iisakki Samulinp. (= Samuelsson) 5/8 1876
                          w. Liisa Kaisa Sorvari 5/10 1875
                          married 23/10 1898.
                          Best -

                          Ilmari Kivinen

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                          • #14
                            A little update

                            Hi,

                            I thought I'd give a brief update and a very large THANKS to Karen.

                            Because of Karen, there is now a mini telephone family reunion going on with the cousins from Gustaf and his sibling.

                            Thanks again!
                            Best -

                            Ilmari Kivinen

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