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    Hi!
    My Finland ancestors all came from Esse, Finland. They emigrated between 1880 and 1890. John Johnson (1859 - 1899) lived in Brooklyn, NY. I have not found his brother Matt Johnson or sister Ida Marie Johnson yet, but I think both emigrated as well. I researched the passport applications for Jakobstad from 1880 - 1890 but the microfilm is unreadable. Does anyone know where these records would be archived in Finland?
    Sam

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    Hi! Are you sure about your ancestors name?

    I made a search from the HisKi-database and there are no "Johnson"s

    http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/88n

    Choose English, 15, Esse, First name child joh, Father first name joh, Years 1.1.1859 - 31.12.1859
    Alf

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      Since Johansson would be a patronymic, father's first name Johan, there are several Johan and Matts born in the time frame on various farms in Esse. Mård, Nyback, Påval have matches. There are a few Ida Maria Johansdotter, but need more info. My family tree have all these names.
      Karen

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        Johnson

        I think Johnson comes from patronymic Johansson (son of Johan).
        Alf

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          archives

          Hi all!

          I have found my relatives in the hiski database. They are from Pavals but moved to Jakobstad in 1875. I found them in the Jakobstad communion book, but I am trying to find the passport request so that I know when they emigrated to the US. The National Archives had microfilm of the Jakobstad passports at both Vaasa and Helsinki. On my way to Vaasa next week. If I do not find them there would there be another location to look that is close to Jakobstad?

          Here are my relatives: Alexander Johnson 13 Feb 1826 Esse (Pavels) - 7 Feb 1897 Jakobstad; his wife Anna Lisa Mattsdotter 25 Apr 1828 Esse (Pavels) -?; children: John Johnson 14 Jan 1859 Esse (Pavals) - 10 Mar 1899 Brooklyn, NY, Matt Johnson 29 Apr 1861 Esse (Pavals) - 13 May 1937 Butte, MT, Ida Marie Johnson 7 Sep 1870 Esse (Pavals) - ?, Johanna Johnson 15 Dec 1855 Esse (Pavals) - ?

          I am trying to locate the passport records for John Johnson and Matt Johnson. They emigrated from Jakobstad between 1881 and 1890. I found Ida Marie's passport request in 1890. The family went by the name Johnson in the US but used the name Janson in Jakobstad.

          I am also trying to find out when Anna Lisa died and what happened to Johanna.

          Thanks for your help

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            Johnson

            I think the info from HisKi is this - both Johannes and Matts are born on Jåfs!
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            Alf

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            • #7
              I have this family, but not your generation, in my data-base. Parents of Alexander were Johannes Andersson Påvals t Lassfolk 4.4.1782 Lassfolk farm, died 12.8.1843 Påvals farm. Married Elisabeth (Lisa) Eriksdotter Påvals born 1.6.1787 Påvals farm and died 11.8.1863 same place. They were married 24.4.1804 in Esse. They had at least 12 children 1805-1828 including your Alexander. All born Påvals farm. I will be interested to see what you uncover about Alexander's family. Is that birth year for Johanna correct? Is she first born?
              Karen

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              • #8
                Here's Alexander and family in Påval, Esse. He moved to Jakobstad in 1875.
                Karen
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                • #9
                  Getting interested, since Alexander's mother Elisabeth's father Erik was my paternal line ancestor's brother. Also his wife Anna Lisa is multiply related. Both are my paternal line grandfather's grandfather's (Påhl Mattsson Påvals/Kornjärvi 1828-1892) second cousins.
                  I hadn't any information after family's moving to Jakobstad.

                  Jaska

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                  • #10
                    Hi all.
                    Yes, Alexander and Anna Lisa married and lived at Pavals until 1858 when they moved to Jafs.
                    Five children were born at Pavals but only Johanna survived childhood. She was born 15 Dec 1855.
                    After moving to Jafs, three children were born but only Johan and Matts survived. In 1865 the family moved back to Pavals and three more children were born. Only Ida Marie survived.
                    In 1875 the family moved to Jakobstad. I found them in the Jakobstad communion books and Alexander died 7 Feb 1897 in Jakobstad. I cannot find Anna Lisa or Johanna after that date. Could they have returned to Esse?
                    I visited Esse today and it is so beautiful. Tomorrow on to Jakobstad.

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                      1891 jakobstad.JPG


                      Here is the 1891 - 1900 communion book entry for Jakobstad:

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                      • #12
                        Can anyone read the note next to Johanna?

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                        • #13
                          Anna Lisa and four children can be found in Jakobstad communion book 1902-1909 pages 153 and 164.
                          http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivu...17499&pnum=150
                          http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivu...17499&pnum=161
                          No later books online.

                          Jaska

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                            1900 jakobstad.JPG


                            yes. what do the notes mean?

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                            • #15
                              I have found much information on Ancestry about Matts Johnson. There are pictures also. Are you interested?

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