Susanna Wilhelmina Lind & Johan Theodur Happ-Hopp-Hoppe

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Hi Arlis!

Yes the link is for members only but it is
the same as the thumbnail.

In the 1849-1856 book there is also the
info about Johan Johansson and wife Caisa Johansdr
moving to Loimijoki 1856.

In the thumbnail Urjala 1857-1864, there is no
communion markings for them....

If they are Susannas parents, that i can´t tell....



Tapio


Syntynyt Kastettu Kylä Talo Isä Äiti Lapsi

24.1.1812 26.1.1812 Notsjö Harittu tp. Johan Lind Anna Nils.dr Maria

25.12.1813 27.12.1813 Urdiala Harittu tp. Joh. Johs: Anna Stina Nilsdr Eva

29.3.1815 2.4.1815 Urdiala Harittu tp. Johan Johs: Anna Nilsdr 23 Elisabeth

30.11.1817 1.12.1817 Harittu Joh: Lind Anna Stina Nilsdr Eva

7.6.1820 11.6.1820 Urdiala Torp. Johan Lind Anna Nilsdr 29 Johan

27.1.1823 2.2.1823 Urdiala Harittu Trp. Johan Joh.son Anna Stina Nilsdr 31 Ulrika

15.7.1825 17.7.1825 Urdiala Harittu Trp. Johan Lind Anna Stina Nilsdr 34 Anna Caisa

25.2.1828 26.2.1828 Urdiala Kivimäki T. Johan Joh.son Lind A. St. Nilsdr 37 Justina

21.6.1831 24.6.1831 Urdiala Kivimäki T. Johan Joh.son Lind Anna St. Nilsdr 40 Matts

31.1.1835 5.2.1835 Urdiala Kivimäki T. Johan (not Lind) Anna St. Nilsdr 44 Carl Gustaf

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Hello, Goldie.
Yes, he did. We've been eating walleye instead of crappies this winter. But I love crappies, too! He bought an Ice Castle last year--you'll have to Google that to see what it is. Now he can stay out for 2-3-4 days.
Arlis

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Thanks for finding those records Tapio. Now what do you suggest? Are we at a dead end until more books are transcribed?

Arlis

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Hi Arlis!

Well, before it was possible to order copies of mikrocards,
from Mikkeli, but i don´t know if they still have that service?
http://www.arkisto.fi/fi/yhteystiedot/#mikkeli

Mikkelin maakunta-arkisto
Käyntiosoite: Pirttiniemenkatu 8 A
Postiosoite: PL 2, 50101 Mikkeli
Puhelin: (015) 321 310
Sukuselvitykset, virkatodistukset: (015) 321 3132
Tutkijasali, lukulaitevaraukset: (015) 321 3120
Faksi: (015) 321 3157
Sähköposti: mikkeli[*]narc.fi


I think You could try to write them, if they could look up the birthrecord
on Susanna Wilhelmina, since You have the date and all..

Or maybe some of the forum readers often go to the national arcives,
could look it up for You?


Tapio

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Arlis,

look what the always so kind
Raija-Leena Huuki found out.


http://suku.genealogia.fi/showthread.php?t=9542


Tapio

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Hi Arlis!

From Raija-Leenas great foundings, check out these for your own
opinion.

(Some bouncing birthdates, i could be wrong, once again..)

The last name, Lind, for Susanna, made me go on a false trail in Urjala.


1. Lind Susanna Wilhelmina, s. 05.06.1851 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1857-1864 Kuva 43.



Parents

2. Waskela Johan Gustaf Mattson, s. 23.06.1823 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1857-1864 Kuva 43. puoliso Susanna Carlsdr, avioliitossa 30.06.1842 Urjala Igi.

3. Susanna Carlsdr, s. 30.05.1825 Vesilahti.



II

4. Mats Michelsson, s. 18.02.1791 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1825-1832 Kuva 72. puoliso Munter Maria Elisabeth Matsdr, avioliitossa 06.01.1823 Urjala Igi M450573.

5. Munter Maria Elisabeth Matsdr, s. 04.02.1799 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1825-1832 Kuva 72.




III

8. Michel Eriksson, s. 1747 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1803-1808 Kuva 186. puoliso Caisa Henriksdr, avioliitossa 11.11.1779 Urjala M450572 Igi.

9. Caisa Henriksdr, s. Urjala , Rippikirja, 1803-1808 Kuva 186.

10. Munter Mats Matsson, s. 13.01.1766 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1797-1803 Kuva 166, ammatti Soldier, k. 03.04.1840 Urjala. puoliso Noiskoski Maria Thomasdr, avioliitossa 20.10.1791 Urjala Igi M450572.

11. Noiskoski Maria Thomasdr, s. 05.07.1771 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1779-1802 Kuva 40, k. 25.10.1844 Urjala.




IV

20. Laukell-Laukman Mats Johansson, s. 1740 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1764-1771 Kuva 71, ammatti Soldier, k. 16.07.1786. puoliso Beata Thomasdr, avioliitossa 27.12.1760 Urjala Igi M450572.

21. Beata Thomasdr, s. 11.06.1738 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1797-1803 Kuva 166, k. 22.10.1817 Urjala.

22. Käpynen Thomas Bertilsson, s. 1742 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1779-1802 Kuva 40, k. 30.03.1814 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1809-1816 Kuva 19. puoliso Noiskoski Lisa Michelsdr, avioliitossa 08.12.1765 Urjala Igi M450572.

23. Noiskoski Lisa Michelsdr, s. 24.06.1735 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1779-1802 Kuva 40, k. 22.02.1825 Urjala.





V




44. Bertil Thomasson, s. 1710 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1738-1749 Kuva 39, k. 15.06.1764 Kalvola. puoliso Käpynen Lisa Williamsdr, avioliitossa 30.12.1741 Urjala Igi M450572.

45. Käpynen Lisa Williamsdr, s. 1725 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1738-1749 Kuva 39, k. 20.07.1813 Kalvola , Rippikirja, 1810-1815 Kuva 128.

46. Michel Matsson, s. 10.08.1712 Urjala , Väestöluettelo, 1750-1765 Kuva 91, k. 20.08.1758 Urjala. puoliso Maria Eriksdr.

47. Maria Eriksdr, s. 1714 Urjala , Väestöluettelo, 1750-1765 Kuva 91, k. 23.10.1757 Urjala.





VI

90. Käpynen William Matsson, s. 1700 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1738-1749 Kuva 39. puoliso Maria Thomasdr.

91. Maria Thomasdr, s. 1701 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1738-1749 Kuva 39.

VII

180. Mats. puoliso Maria Larsdr.

181. Maria Larsdr, k. 23.03.1740 Urjala , Rippikirja, 1738-1749 Kuva 39.






Tapio

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Wow, Tapio!!

Please thank your wonderful friend for me. She did a lot of researching just because you asked her to. How very nice! I saw at the Otto (and?) Albert baptism there were 2 Lind godparents out of the 5 listed. Where does the Lind name fit in otherwise?

If I write to the address you gave me, will her birth certificate give the full name of her parents so we can make sure we are chasing the right ones?

Kiitos, Tapio! And many thanks to your Friend, too!

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Hi Arlis!

Yes it´s worth a try to send email to Mikkeli.

But i think the only thing You can get more than from
Igi, is maybe the name of the house where she was born..

The moving from Urjala to Lempäälä, and Susannas moving
from Lempäälä to Tampere, is in my book proof enough, but
many genealogists wants even the childbooks data, to be sure.

http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...o15-22/207.htm

Nr. 13



Best regards


Tapio

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Kiitos, Tapio.

You didn't answer my question: Where did the name Lind come from? I see Waskela and Munter. I see the farm names where the family have lived at. But how does she get the last name Lind?

Did you notice youngest brother Otto Albert is number 2 on that last link you sent?

Arlis

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Hi Arlis!

I think the upcoming churchbooks of Lempäälä 1860-1876
may give You an answer.

I don´t think that number two is Susannas brother,
by that time Otto Albert is only seven years old.



Tapio

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Tapio,

I feel stupid--didn't even consider his age.

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Arlis,

please don´t feel like that.


Best regards


Tapio

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Hi, Tapio!

I'm accustomed to feeling silly and will get over it!!

Is there a site on the web where I can look up deaths in Finland? My grandfather was one of 10 siblings, and many of them didn't emigrate. My grandmother also had brothers who didn't come here.

Arlis

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Hello Arlis!

Some updates from Lempäälä, this evening.


http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...o44-58/413.htm

http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...o44-58/418.htm

http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...ko59-73/68.htm

http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...o59-73/176.htm


Tapio

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Thank you very much, Tapio. In the third image, who are the two young families that moved in with Johan and Susanna? Could they be younger sisters or brothers? Eight people moving in with such a large family already is a LOT to ask!!!!

Arlis