Sjöberg Seaberg from Teerijarvi

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Hugo found with sister Edith in NY!

Hi Peter,
What good luck we have here! The church microfilm is rather incomplete but with Edith being married there, it could suggest she is a member so I will go back to that microfilm and give it a more diligent search.
Did you notice that the couple Hugo was a witness for were witnesses earlier to another couple?
I will look at the marriage records ever so closely to see if Hugo got himself married in that place although the custom is that one marries in the woman's church.
If I do not find him further on in this church, I will check the other Bronx and New York and Brooklyn churches.
If you had a street address for him, that would help.
Very pleased indeed that we can confirm him by the presence of his sister Edith - I didn't really notice her because I wasn't looking for her.
A great day!
Chuck

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Hugo Sjoberg

Hi Chuck

Sorry for not replying earlier. I had a severe computer failure.

It looks like you are on the target. I have been checking around a little, trying to find some clues. Two of Edith´s sons are still alive, it´s the two I have mentionned earlier, Leo and Ole. they cannot recall anything vital that Edith would have said about Hugo, except for that they never heard Edith saying anything about Hugo beeing married.

You mentioned that friends have a tendency to stay together, and some of the names seems to be Terjärv names.

I also checked with my aunt and my mother if they could recall anything what so ever. My grandmother and grandfather lived in New York between 1928 and 1932. They where registered as roomers in Bronx. West 162nd street with Edwin Furu. (Federal census 1930)
My mother remember something about the Swedish Lutheran Church. My uncle Klas was born in New York, 23 apr 1931 and perhaps he was baptised there. Klas passed away 1996 so he can´t tell and there are no papers left.

It´s a long shot,.
If he can´t be found neither in church records nor in the census records. What about criminal records...??

Is it possible to have access to those??

Thanks again for your kind help

Peter

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Hugo and Bronx

Hi again Chuck

By the way,, do you know were the name Bronx derives from???

In june 1639 a ship ancored outside what is now called Bronx.
the captain of the ship bought some land from the native indians and built a house there. He first called the homested "Emmaus" but it was later changed to Broncks land, since the captains name was Jonas Jonasson Bronck (e.g Brunck).
He was born 1600 in Sävsjö Sweden and died 6 may 1643 in "Bronx".
Sävsjö is just 45 min drive from Anderstorp Where I live.....

The story about it is to be found in New York Times, Sunday 9th june 1985.

It´s a small world!!!!

Peter

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Hugo and Edith

Hi,
I have just returned from Swenson and must report that I did not find Hugo or Edith . There are only 3 swedish lang churches in the Bronx.
BETHLEHEM COVENANT 1902 S-80 which is where I found Hugo as a wedding witness and you saw Edith also
MESSIAH LUTHERAN 1906 S-183 is where I checked today and did not find them.
The other church was organized in 1919 so if I didn't find them in an earlier church, it's not likely they will be at this newer place.
Bethesda Covenant on Manhattan Island did not have a membership list or any kind of people list so no help therer.
Gustavus Adolphus Lutheran on Manhattan Island is a large church without an index which I have not yet checked and 3 lutheran churches in Brooklyn which are unchecked.
Hmm, do you have Edith's husband's name?
chuck

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Hugo

Hi again Chuck

Ediths husbands name was Leonard and it is perhaps her co-witness. She met her Leonard in New York and they went back to Finland in 1909 or 10. They took the name Sjövall after the farm they bought in Pasiala, Nedervetil.
I don´t know if he came from Pasiala or his name before getting married to Edith. I´ll make some phonecalls to Pasiala a.s.a.p in order to find out his name and where they got married.

Peter

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Paasiala

I haven't been following this thread closely, but the name Hugo Alexander caught my eye. At Paasiala there was an Edit Maria Carl- Johansdotter, b. 1885 who married in 1905 Hugo Alexander Henriksson Palm or Gåsjärvi. They probably have no connection to this discussion, but I thought I'd mention it.

June

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Just Hugo remains in NY

Hi Peter,
Interesting so I was right that Edith married Leonard but I had written that in error not noticing that they were witnesses so all is well there


Only Hugo remains so if you have anything about him leaving NYC, that would be very good to know.

Chuck

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Hugo at Ellis Island

Hi Peter,
I found him by allowing all spellings of sjoberg.
Unfortunately the image of the ship manifest is not that of Hugo's ship but a ship called Patria which sailed in 1909.
I have made a printscreen of the text version of the manifest and attached here for you.

Chuck

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Hugo and Pasiala

June

The name Gåsjärvi rings a bell, but i can´t find it in my computer.
I will go "treasure hunting" in my piles of papers to see if I can find it.

Thanks for your concern.


Chuck

It seems that, from the information I can get, Hugo never left New York.
It is also very likely that he would have attended at his brothers (Elis, my grandfather) first sons christening. If he still lived in New York. I have sent a mail to finland in order to find out from the church records in Terjärv where he was christened.

Once again, Thanks for your kind help.

Peter

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Hugo and Edith

Peter,
I went back into Bethelehem Covenant where I found Hugo as witness and you noticed Edith also as witness. I went to see if Edith got married there but there was no record of that happening there.
Then I bravely went into the S190-2 microfilm for Gustavus Adolphus Lutheran in NY, no member index, I tried to find Edith amongst the single women and Hugo amongst the single men but no luck there.
I also checked the 1920 census for NY and did not find him as Hugo Sjoberg. I searched using Hugo and Finland to delineate the people and didn't find anybody who fit him.
I did not find them at Messiah Lutheran in the Bronx and because Pilgrim Lutheran in the Bronx was founded in 1919 [members shown from 1914], I didn't look there but I will try it tomorrow and see if Hugo was there.
Chuck

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1910 census possibility

Hi Peter,
The cd by Heritage Quest Scandinavians in the 1910 US Federal Census acts as an index to the 1910 census.
I searched for Hugo because I couldn't imagine all the alternative spelling possibilities that may appear for Sjöberg. This entry is somewhat of a stretch of the imagination but I felt worth mentioning as so little can be found on Hugo. Hopefully someone with the actual census will check it out for you.

SHURBER Hugo age 25 b. Fin New York County 21-PCT 32-AD Bronx T624 997 Part 1 Page 290 B NY

Tassel didn't appear.

Best wishes, Jeanette

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Hugo Shurber

There isn't a whole lot of clues when looking at this entry. No immigration date is listed. It simply lists:

Hugo Shurber, 25, single, born Finland (& parents), a carpenter for the Railroad. He is a boarder listed with a family named Niels Mattson, 48, and Olga, 37 both born Finland and immigrated 1902. Niels was also a carpenter for the Railroad. It looks like they lived in an apartment building. Address was 576 E. 138th Street, Bronx, NY.

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From Terjärv

Hi Peter,
There is one person who returned from New York, New Jersey states, where he and his wife got to know a large number of emigrants from Terjärv. I don't know if he and/or his wife are still resident most of the time in the home he built on Heimsjö, or have moved into senior housing. However he actively collected as many letters "home" from the emigrants as he could, and has if not thousands, then hundreds of them. If there is a member from Terjärv who is acquainted with Hilding Vidjeskog, perhaps they could contact him, and see what he remembers about Hugo Sjöberg in America.
Just a really far out chance!
Syrene

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Hugo Sjöberg

Hugo Sjöberg's father was Anders Sjöberg Lilltimmerbacka. He was married (1) to Brita Nikula, (2) to Maria Timmerbacka. Lydia is the only child from the first marriage. There are 9 children in the second marriage, all born in Terjärv:


Descendants of: Anders Carlsson Sjöberg Lilltimmerbacka

1 Anders Carlsson Sjöberg Lilltimmerbacka b. 24-12-1853 d. 19-03-1923
m. Brita Karolina Mattsdr Sjöberg Nikula b. 25-03-1848 d. 09-06-1880
m. Maria Mattsdr Sjöberg Timmerbacka m. 12-02-1882 b. 11-06-1856 d. 01-08-1925
[daughter of Matts Nilsson Sandkulla and Anna Simonsdr Sandkulla Merijärvi]
2 Lydia Karolina Vikman Sjöberg b. 30-05-1880
m. Anders Mattsson Vikman Reipsar Byskata m. 11-04-1903 b. 29-01-1876 d. 05-07-1928
[son of Matts Johansson Byskata and Johanna Johansdr Byskata Backman]
3 Anders Roy Rafael Vikman b. 15-01-1904
3 Bror Ragnar Vales Vikman b. 02-04-1905
3 Freja Elsa Karolina Vikman b. 11-10-1909
3 Ragnhild Ingeborg Johanna Vikman b. 19-05-1912
3 Rakel Agneta Vikman b. 21-11-1914
3 Ragnar Sven Erik Vikman b. 08-03-1917
2 Anders Ture Andersson Sjöberg b. 23-04-1883 d. 07-02-1925
m. Maria Johanna Sjöberg Sandqvist Nylund m. 07-06-1908 b. 23-06-1885
[daughter of Nils Mattson Sandqvist Sandkulla and Olga Olivia Sandqvist Wickström]
3 Saga Maria Margareta Sjöberg b. 20-03-1909 d. 14-04-1924
3 Nils Harry Andreas Sjöberg b. 10-05-1911
3 Ann-Mari Johanna Andersdr Sjöberg b. 1912 d. 1912
3 Ture Sven Erik Andersson Sjöberg b. 1914 d. 1914
3 Greta Johanna Krokfors Sjöberg b. 27-07-1915 d. 17-09-1994
m. Einar Bertil Krokfors m. 16-11-1940 b. 28-12-1907 d. 02-02-1980
[son of Leander Jacobsson Krokfors and Maria Johansdotter Krokfors Storbjörk]
4 Bo Nils Bertel Krokfors b. 20-08-1941 d. 20-08-1941
4 barnet Bertilsdr Krokfors b. 20-08-1941 d. 20-08-1941
4 Greger Nils Bertel Krokfors b. 22-04-1944
m. Ann-Sofi Krokfors Sundström m. 21-08-1966 b. 07-07-1940
[daughter of John Emil Sundström and Ruth Dagmar Sundström Liljeström]
5 Jockum Ulf Greger Krokfors b. 16-08-1967
m. Vivian Gunilla M. Krokfors Esselström m. 19-08-1989 b. 03-01-1969
[daughter of Bo-Göran Esselström and Gun Marianne Esselström Käldman]
6 Hanna Krokfors b. 29-08-1995
5 Moa Ann-Sofi Hagnäs Krokfors b. 29-04-1973
m. Robert Mikael Hagnäs b. 10-05-1970
[son of Ole Henrik Hagnäs and Maj-Britt Johanna Hagnäs Sundström]
4 Barbro Maria Margareta Friman Krokfors b. 30-04-1946
m. Bror Erik Friman b. 21-08-1949
5 Britt-Marie Lento Friman b. 10-07-1970
m. Tomi Markus Lento m. 23-03-1991 b. 22-12-1968
[son of Erkki Olavi Lento and Britta Katarina Rubensdr Lento Strang]
6 Teemu Markus Erik Lento b. 01-07-1991
5 Åsa Johanna Friman b. 11-12-1976
3 Anna Stina Andersdotter Sjöberg b. 1917 d. 1917
3 Britta Ingeborg Dorotea Hedman Sjöberg b. 14-02-1919
m. Karl Erik Hedman m. 23-12-1944 b. 02-04-1920
[son of Carl William Johansson Hedman Söderena and Hilda Johanna Hedman Sundholm]
4 Kaj Hedman
2 Hugo Alexander Sjöberg b. 02-02-1885
2 Edit Maria Sjövall Sjöberg b. 20-05-1886
m. Matts Leonard Sjövall Paasiala m. 28-06-1908 b. 21-06-1882
[son of Alexander Mattsson Paasiala and Zerafina Jakobsdotter Paasiala Riippa]
3 Åke Eugen Matias Sjövall b. 29-08-1909 d. 07-12-1981
m. Elli Inga-Lill Johansdr Sjövall Sandvik b. 20-05-1915 d. 30-03-1993
[daughter of Johan Mattsson Sandvik and Maria Alina Andersdr Sandvik Döfnäs]
4 Lilian Ros-Mari Peltoniemi Sjövall b. 29-01-1939
m. Seppo Juhani Peltoniemi b. 09-03-1938
5 Mika Juhani Peltoniemi b. 09-11-1964
5 Tomi Teijo Peltoniemi b. 14-07-1966
5 Janne Markko Peltoniemi b. 06-03-1971
4 Margareta Sjövall b. 05-03-1941
4 Kjell Sjövall b. 1947
m. Lena Sjövall Rahkelin
5 Camilla Sjövall
3 Levi Paul Alexander Sjövall b. 12-04-1911
3 Elvi Eva Maria Lerbacka Sjövall b. 07-01-1913
m. Anders Rudolf Lerbacka m. 16-06-1935 b. 05-05-1901
[son of Johannes Johansson Lerbacka and Fanny Elisabeth Lerbacka Hauhtonen]
3 Sven Leonard Sjövall b. 18-01-1916
3 Edit Lisbeth Linnea Sjövall b. 1917 d. 1917
3 Ole Anders Sjövall b. 04-11-1920
m. Ingegerd Linnea Sjövall Simonsbacka b. 02-08-1928
[daughter of Karl Fritjof Alexandersson Simonsbacka and Hilda Maria Simonsbacka Sandström]
4 Karola Olesdr Porko Sjövall b. 21-09-1953
4 Rose Maj Olesdr Broända Sjövall b. 23-11-1958
m. Sören Broända b. 10-11-1956
5 Linda Sörensdr Broända b. 24-07-1979
5 Malin Sörensdr Broända b. 03-02-1986
5 Emma Sörensdr Broända b. 1990
4 Matts Olesson Sjövall b. 21-03-1963
3 Anna Linnea Leandersdr Majabacka Sjövall b. 04-11-1920
m. Ragnar Sanfridsson Majabacka m. 30-09-1942 b. 12-07-1918 d. 19-07-1977
[son of Matts Sanfrid Ottosson Majabacka and Ester Elisabeth Majabacka Palm]
4 Ulf Ragnar Mathias Majabacka b. 12-09-1946
m. Tuula Marjatta Majabacka Holopainen m. 13-01-1973 b. 21-09-1945
5 Ulf Daniel Majabacka b. 04-03-1975
5 Markus Ragnar Majabacka b. 04-03-1975
5 Benny Mattias Majabacka b. 20-11-1976
4 Christer Karl Erik Majabacka b. 23-09-1947
m. Marjatta Anna-Liisa Majabacka Jylhä m. 07-01-1968 b. 27-06-1948
5 Heidi Marjur Majabacka b. 08-12-1972
4 Lars Mikael Ragnarsson Majabacka b. 21-03-1949
m. Inger Marianne Majabacka Lindström m. 09-09-1972 b. 29-07-1947
5 Johnny Mikael Majabacka b. 15-05-1973
5 Kenneth Jan-Ole Majabacka b. 18-12-1975
4 Tom Gustav Ragnarsson Majabacka b. 11-10-1952
m. Bernice Maria Majabacka Träsk m. 01-06-1974 b. 28-10-1953
5 Tom Patrik Majabacka b. 08-04-1975
5 Matts Andreas Majabacka b. 10-03-1979
4 Bo Matts Anders Ragnarsson Majabacka b. 07-11-1958
4 Ann-Louise Ragnarsdotter Majabacka b. 09-06-1960
3 Lars Rafael Johannes Sjövall b. 11-06-1922
3 Rut Else-Maj Ahlbäck Sjövall b. 28-12-1923
m. Bror Erik Teodor Ahlbäck m. 23-08-1952 b. 13-12-1922
[son of Anders Teodor Johansson Ahlbäck Backman and Ida Sofia Ingeborg Ahlbäck Sjöberg]
4 Anders Bengt Erik Ahlbäck b. 15-08-1953
4 Rut Elsbeth Margareta Ahlbäck b. 08-05-1956
4 Ulf Peter Ahlbäck b. 08-05-1956
2 Nils Gideon Andersson Sjöberg b. 05-12-1887
2 Karl Evert Andersson Sjöberg b. 10-09-1893
2 Elis Richard Andersson Sjöberg b. 30-06-1895
m. Elvi Ingeborg Sjöberg Timmerbacka m. 29-09-1929 b. 17-07-1906
[daughter of Alexander Gustafsson Timmerbacka and Anna Greta Timmerbacka Fors]
3 Clas Elis Sjöberg b. 23-04-1931 d. 07-03-1997
m. Ann Britt Johanna Sjöberg Skogvik m. 31-08-1968 b. 19-05-1927 d. 27-09-1973
[daughter of Johannes Emil Skogvik Myrskog and Fanny Maria Jakobsdr Skogvik Myrskog]
3 Annmari Ingeborg Sjöberg b. 25-01-1934
3 Elvi Anna Greta Söderbacka Sjöberg b. 14-05-1942
m. Lars Harry Andreas Söderbacka m. 25-09-1965 b. 18-09-1935
[son of Leo Andreas Söderbacka and Siiri Irene Söderbacka Hautaniemi]
4 Mats Harry Andreas Söderbacka b. 19-03-1966
4 Monika Ingeborg Söderbacka b. 18-06-1968
2 Anna Linnea Andersdotter Sjöberg b. 18-09-1896
2 Otto Hendar Andersson Sjöberg b. 17-04-1898 d. 24-11-1898
2 Aili Emilia Andersdotter Sjöberg b. 29-12-1901 d. 10-01-1931


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Hugo in NY

Peter,
Today at Swenson I checked, page by page, Pilgrim Lutheran in Bronx which is a Finnish church.
I did not find Hugo but I found another
Sjöberg who is a match with one on Hasse's list:
Elis Richard Andersson Sjöberg

I found, on page 37, this guy:
Elis Sjöberg from Teerijärvi,
b. 6-30-__
he returned to Finland 12-1-1928 and then it says see page 44 where we find this:
wife Elve Ingeborg from Teerijävi, b. 7-17-1906 with son Clas Elis b. 4-23-1931 in Bronx, NY.
This says Elis returned in 1932 so maybe he traveled back and forth?
Chuck