Susanna Wilhelmina Lind & Johan Theodur Happ-Hopp-Hoppe

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Hello Arlis!

Johan Gustaf Matsson and wife Susanna with family is living at
the Henneri farm of surveyor Bror Sven Lindh, who´s son Bror
Rudolf Benjamin also was a surveyor.

It looks like Johan Gustaf Matsson was some kind of guard or
gatekeeper...?

I don´t think everyone under Johan Gustafs Mattson in this third picture
lives in the same house, there was propably several houses or crofts,
people marked as farm-hands.

I can see that Susanna Wilhelmina moved to Tampere the first time at
1861, only ten years of age. Number 144 on the left:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...ko15-22/45.htm


Tapio

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Tapio,
Is this where the name Lind(h) comes from? Are they mother Susanna's family? I see when Otto Albert was born, both Karoline Ulrika and Eine Lindh were godparents. Does 'arrendatorn' mean gatekeeper? That's the father's occupation listed on Otto Albert's birth registry. I also notice that both Bror Rudolph Benjamin Lindh and mother Susanna were born in Vesilahti/Wesilax. I think I'm going to search in Hiski for mother Susanna's birth name.

Thanks, Tapio!!

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Tapio--out of luck on that Hiski search--no births transcribed for Vesilahti yet.

I have a question regarding Raija-Leena's search. She lists 'Waskela' Johan Gustaf Mattson, s. 23.06.1823 Urjala, Rippikirja, 1857-1864 Kuva 43 etc, for his marriage to Susanna. What is this Waskela, his surname?? It sounds more like the name of a place to me, but what do I know?!?

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Hi Arlis!

People often took the name of the place they lived in when they moved around.
Johan Gustaf used both Waskela and Frigård, maybe Lind in the end???

In the members section of FFHA there is some updates on rippikirjat
of Vesilahti. Susanna Carlsdr 30.05.1825 was from the Laurila farm:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...9_tk179/16.htm

Her parents Laurila Carl Andersson 14.11.1777-10.04.1826 and
Sisto Maria Adamsdr 16.05.1784, married 02.07.1800 in Vesilahti,
the marriage is on hiski.

Tapio

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Hi!

Magnus Hopp and family at Hamiltons regement 1796-1808,
no more clues here, where they were from...

http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...es3197/250.htm


Tapio

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Sääksmäki - married

Kuul. Vihitty Kylä Talo Mies Vaimo Kylä Talo
24.2.1774 Wesilax Bds: Anders Jöransson P. Catharina Carlsd:r Tartila






Tapio

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Tapio?

I don't understand this one. Who are these people?

Arlis

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Tapio,
I'm going to hang unto the Lindh name like a bulldog! When Otto Albert was born, Mrs. Lindh, Mrs Armfelt (her daughter) and youngest daughter Eine were godparents, along with Mr. Armfelt and another man. I'm convinced there is a marriage somewhere in the family that gave my great grandmother a reason to carry that name.

OR, you could be right and it's just the name she used when she left the Lindh farm. Or, maybe she did marry a Lind (remember daughter Elsa?), or maybe Lind was the father of Elsa, but she didn't marry him. Who knows? But I'm going to try to chase down the Lind(h) trail the best I can.

Thanks for your help!!

Arlis

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Hi Arlis!

In the attachment one can see Susanna Carlsdaughters moving
to Urjala 18.10.1841.

In the link in the same message one can see Susannas parents and
grandparents, the grandparents marriage was in Sääksmäki.

Arrendatorn is someone who is renting the land.



Tapio

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Tapio,
Even after you told me the names of the grandparents, I couldn't find them on the link! Then I decided to check the ages for who would have been old enough to get married in 1777. That's when I noticed the 4 wavy lines. Still, Georgii isn't what I was expecting for Joransson! And Caroli isn't Carlsdtr. It's a VERY good thing for me that you are helping me find ancestors!!!! I would have passed these names by every time I looked at them. Do the wavy lines indicate they moved into the Laurila village/farm at the same time, or just that they aren't children?

Arlis

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Hello Arlis!

I don´t know about the wavy lines, but here´s an
earlier picture.

Anders can be seen twice here, third line, under his parents,
and eight person on the list, wife Caisa under him.

http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirj...5_tk178/14.htm


Tapio

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Tapio,

Yes, it's easier to read on this image. Couldn't open SFHS yesterday; I tried several times. Thank you again, 20X!!

Arlis